I would say the loophole sits in according to God’s marital arrangement
According to JW's the WTBTS marital arrangement should be solely between people that are member of JWs. If one of you ceases to be a JW, it is no longer according to the WTBTS marital arrangement.Anony Mous
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JW Marriages - Loophole in wedding vows
by Finally-Free innot being raised as a jw, i went to many church weddings, mostly in catholic churches.
all the times i went to jw weddings i thought it unusual that they had their own vows, much different from the wedding vows used elsewhere.
i remembered jws mentioning "divine temination" of marriages to me and thought the vows reflected that thought.
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How do you feel about Brexit?
by SydBarrett inthe "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.
there are a lot of brits on this board.
what are your thoughts on brexit?
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Anony Mous
I’m not sure where you get your figures, but consumer inflation overall has remained lower in the UK vs US or EU since Brexit.
Yes, the overall inflation number tracks higher and lower in some months but food and fuel inflation is lower across the board, although the EU artificially reduced their numbers by keeping interest rates low, which looks great on paper but if you’re not adjusting to the market, you’re basically pumping the economy by printing money, eventually that will have to end.
Doesn’t help the Bank of England does everything in its power to create higher inflation (similar QE policies than the US) but most of the inflation according to Statista is in the area of taxes/duties (paying more for the state to do less, eg. NHS which has doubled its cost compared to its revenue in the last few years).
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"Independent" Scotland joke!
by BoogerMan inhumza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.
" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.
try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.
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Anony Mous
I think Scottish independence is feasible, but not under SNP and not with the goal of becoming part of another country (EU) again. If you’re just changing who runs the country, then you may as well not change at all, the crown is objectively better than the unelected bureaucrats of the EU.
If you don’t have a plan that includes eliminating high taxes and eliminating and privatizing the broken healthcare and transportation and other government-run systems, then you’re not changing anything.
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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?
by SydBarrett inany opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
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Anony Mous
@Syd: modern media does work something like that. No need to organize anything, the White House Comms is a revolving door staffed by media executives and media companies are staffed with political operatives. You can easily find how many Clinton and Obama and now even Biden’s ex staff work at media companies at all levels.
They don’t have to talk directly, there are dark Twitter accounts that people can follow. It’s how SuperPAC communicate with candidates and synchronize the message, there will be a “public” message appearing somewhere in a dark corner of the candidates website and then the SuperPAC somehow finds and amplifies this. It’s why sometimes candidate websites will have a weird section with tons of B-Roll and pictures that make no sense as advertisement, they can then be taken by a SuperPAC for high quality advertisement without ever needing to talk to or do a shoot with the candidate.
This is true for both sides, plenty of people have uncovered some of these accounts, webpages and backchannels, all legal because they’re public (if you know where to look)
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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?
by SydBarrett inany opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
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Anony Mous
@Lee: yes, if they had a loud enough speaker of any sort they could be heard, you still need to then triangulate that signal. The ocean currents make that relatively difficult as they carry and shift the audible signals with them. From everything I read, this sub was done ‘on the cheap’ and didn’t have much of a plan for emergency and disaster.
If you mean to locate them by sonar, a lot of that information is classified, but I don’t think even a powerful sonar can reach those depths from a surface ship. You would need to lower a sonar to a few 100m and then be able to distinguish the object from the surroundings (which could be problematic if it has sunk into the sand or gotten tangled with something).
But that would also require they have power on board to power that sort of device and/or alternatively they could use that power budget to have a low frequency radio. Even airplane ‘black boxes’ that are specifically designed for the purpose of recovery cannot be easily located and especially not recovered beyond a certain depth.
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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?
by SydBarrett inany opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
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Anony Mous
There is no GPS as there is a thick layer of water on top of them. The signals from GPS on the surface are already very weak, they don’t penetrate even a few meters down in the water. Same problem with radio, you need some very special radio at specific frequencies to communicate that deep, a regular cell phone signal can’t go very far on land (relatively), water is a great absorber of radio waves.
If they weren’t tethered and have no special purpose communication device, they are effectively lost, 3km deep even if you find the relatively small capsule and they somehow haven’t drifted off for hundreds of miles, there are currently very few things you can do that could bring them up that wouldn’t instantly kill the occupants. The CIA (actually Howard Hughes, the Elon Musk of the era) once custom built an entire ship to recover a single Soviet sub that was at roughly the same depth, they knew exactly where it was located and it still took over a month once they got on site and they still didn’t recover everything (exact details remain classified, but if I recall correctly, the majority of sections of the sub broke off and sank again in the process)
This is a salvage mission, nothing more, nothing less, there was no backup plan for these people, no dedicated rescue sub, not even a locator beacon, maybe if they are able to make some noise then a sonar can pick it up.
If not dead yet, they will be dead soon, at best we can put a camera down and watch them die. If they had the ability to surface, they would’ve done so by now and been able to call for help. If they do somehow have the ability to attach a crane or something, even that would be very complicated, you can’t descend a human, even in a diving bell, the pressure is too high, you’d need special constructed diving bell/sub with robot arms to get there as the deepest scuba dive ever recorded was only 300m, not 3000m, get down there, attach them and then dislodge and hoist the thing up without compromising the structure. Perhaps possible, but not in whatever time they have left.
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"Jehovah" In The New Testament.
by LostintheFog1999 ini see they have updated their list of translations or versions where some form of yhwh or jhvh appears in the new testament.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/appendix-c/divine-name-new-testament-2/.
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Anony Mous
Again, the divine name was NOT used in the Septuagint. There is a transcription of what MAY be the divine name in Paleo-Hebrew, that made it into SOME translations, a language contemporary Jews would not know how to read or pronounce. The fact it was not transliterated into Greek unlike EVERY other name in the scripture points that there was something mystical or unknown or forbidden about the name and its use.
The use of this Paleo-Hebrew string of characters into translations is not consistent over the ages, people without education into the Jewish belief system wouldn’t know why the characters were there, hence it did not get taken over into every translation and it was often replaced with what the translator thought it meant (El or Elohim from the Canaanite god “Yahweh” was built upon, Lord, God etc) based upon the person or family the translation was intended for.
There is no conspiracy theory, the original name and its pronouncement, if it ever existed, was adapted over time and lost to history. Some contemporary references claim that only the High Priest had access to this secret knowledge but even that isn’t well founded. You’re claiming that for 1500+ years the “name” survived in general parlance and then was completely eradicated in 200 years on behalf of a small sect of Jews (Christians) because one of their factions (Catholics) had a conspiracy to introduce a trinity 100 years later.
The Jews today, perhaps even the Muslims would have some surviving references over the years like they do with everything else, the Talmud and Quran was written around the time you indicate this change would’ve happened in Christianity, yet neither of those also do not pronounce the name today and do not make claim to knowledge about the name or its disappearance at that time and throughout time the Talmud consistently translates the Tetragrammaton as Lord or God and consistently tells the Jews not to try and pronounce the name and it consistently condemns those who tried to.
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Is a one-world government imminent?
by BoogerMan inaccording to countless sources, the planet is rapidly heading towards it.
example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-vhk3ko3wi.
so it looks like the one-world government of revelation 17:17 is also being predicted by atheists!
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Anony Mous
In many places, it practically already is. On the other hand, sufficient people would rebel against it so it will never happen totally. You can see that in the EU for example, they tried very hard and even the EU courts made the decision that the EU government was sovereign, within a few years the UK was out and there is a growing movement across the continent that seeks to follow them.
The problem with leftism/socialism is that someone always wants to be the boss, whether that was Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, Hitler and Lenin, the Khmer and Ho Chi Min, at first they join hands, then someone wants a bit more power so they fight each other. At the end of every quest to the complete atomization of established society, its norms and its culture, you end up with the supreme enlightened expression of individuality, the dictator.
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American Healthcare: How your system works
by Diogenesister incanada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
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Anony Mous
@LoveUni: That's like saying that the government in the US is not responsible for what the FBI or NIH does because it just gives money to the agency and it has its own bosses. Or if I own a company and hire a manager, it ceases to be my responsibility when someone down the chain screws up. Yes, it may be a manager's fault, it may be someone way down the line, but the ownership of those mistakes and liability rests with those that pay those people, if there aren't enough kidney dialysis machines but there is a diversity tsar, the government should decide NHS cannot spend the money on diversity tsars until it has improved all services to the same level as a private clinic.
Per Wikipedia:
NHS is controlled by the UK government through the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which takes political responsibility for the service.
Per the UK government's website:
NHS England is an executive non-departmental public body which by definition is organisations that have a role in the process of national government and are accountable to the public through Parliament.
If you control the purse strings, you control the agency, the money (should) come with ties to performance.
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American Healthcare: How your system works
by Diogenesister incanada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
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Anony Mous
The NHS is part of the government, so how can it not be the government's fault? The mental logistics to come to the conclusion that the NHS is not at fault for mismanagement of the NHS is mindboggling.
Which governments repossess your house for not paying for your " free " healthcare
Try not paying your UK medical bills (or taxes). Per the NHS website, only primary care is 'free' in the UK, unless you are a visitor or immigrant, then it is not, for the non-primary care, you pay out of pocket and then NHS can levy any costs as debt. As I showed with my statistics earlier, it's possible to get bankrupted from medical costs in the UK just as well.
Outpatient prescription drugs are subject to a copayment of GBP 8.80 per prescription (very similar to US co-pays FYI). NHS dentistry services are subject to copayments of up to GBP 256.50 (which is very hefty, given we in the US pay (without insurance) ~$50-75 to see a dentist). For eye glasses and contacts NHS gives vouchers, the difference is paid out of pocket (in the US you can get an eye exam and 2 pairs of glasses or 1 year worth of contacts for $65 without insurance). So you definitely pay something out of pocket, if you don't pay that, you owe money, you go bankrupt, you can lose all your property because you can always 'fall back' on government housing (which is just as excellent and available as your healthcare system).
@LoveUni:
IN THE US, you cannot get your primary house repossessed in bankruptcy. You can be forced to downsize if you live beyond your means, you can have a secondary home repossessed, but a 'regular' person will not lose their car, the equity for a reasonably sized house or most of their possessions in any bankruptcy proceeding.
What you said is already how it is, people just continue to believe the ongoing droning of wannabe communists that somehow the government should own all the means of production, take your possessions and run your life for you.
In New York, there is practically speaking Universal Health Care for anyone that is "poor" (relatively speaking, in the UK you would find that upper limit to be "upper middle class") ran by the local state in addition to federal programs, they also set up sanctuary cities for extreme medical procedures, immigrants etc. In Texas there is less of that (except perhaps for Austin), they have the federal system and a smaller state system. Where are people moving to, where are people less likely to default due to medical debts, which state has the better and lower cost medical systems, the answer is obvious, NYS lost $13B in tax revenues last year because people moved away. If people that got sick were flocking to NY or CA, it would be obvious, except most of the elderly flee to Florida, Texas and the Carolinas.